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	<title>Comments on: Animated Deer Provokes Debate 66 Years After the Fact</title>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://coosacreek.org/mambo/2008/04/25/animated-deer-provokes-debate-66-years-after-the-fact/#comment-655</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan -- Irritating, ain't it?  Oversimplification is a bane of us humans ... not having read Witless' (oops, I mean Whitley's) book, I can't say whether he acknowledges the complexity or not.  Most folks in this country can't or won't see the complexity of our problems.  There's gotta be either this, that, or possibly the other thing at fault, period.  Of course, politicians aid and abet it ... unfortunately, the way you make academic reputations (i.e., Whitley's book) often exacerbates the problem (as does the word "exacerbate").

Daniel -- thanks ... I read that announcement about "Disneynature" with great reserve.  There's a whole new crop of mediocre nature docs out there, perhaps spurred on by the increasing # of HD TVs (I know I watch more of them on mine).  Many of them are just the same old same old, however.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan &#8212; Irritating, ain&#8217;t it?  Oversimplification is a bane of us humans &#8230; not having read Witless&#8217; (oops, I mean Whitley&#8217;s) book, I can&#8217;t say whether he acknowledges the complexity or not.  Most folks in this country can&#8217;t or won&#8217;t see the complexity of our problems.  There&#8217;s gotta be either this, that, or possibly the other thing at fault, period.  Of course, politicians aid and abet it &#8230; unfortunately, the way you make academic reputations (i.e., Whitley&#8217;s book) often exacerbates the problem (as does the word &#8220;exacerbate&#8221;).</p>
<p>Daniel &#8212; thanks &#8230; I read that announcement about &#8220;Disneynature&#8221; with great reserve.  There&#8217;s a whole new crop of mediocre nature docs out there, perhaps spurred on by the increasing # of HD TVs (I know I watch more of them on mine).  Many of them are just the same old same old, however.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://coosacreek.org/mambo/2008/04/25/animated-deer-provokes-debate-66-years-after-the-fact/#comment-652</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great insights, Rick. It's a valid question, and perhaps Disney has provided an answer with the announcement of their "Disneynature" series launching next spring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great insights, Rick. It&#8217;s a valid question, and perhaps Disney has provided an answer with the announcement of their &#8220;Disneynature&#8221; series launching next spring.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Lapper</title>
		<link>http://coosacreek.org/mambo/2008/04/25/animated-deer-provokes-debate-66-years-after-the-fact/#comment-650</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Lapper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm no fan of Disney but I have some nice memories of the movies when I was a kid.  Like you I saw them at revivals in the theaters 'cause that's how it was; no tapes, no dvd's, hell no cable even.  

Anyway, I read about this somewhere, I can't remember now, and I'm just not convinced that Disney helped us become environmentalists.  Given the overwhelming number of factors in the twentieth century (starting with Teddy Roosevelt preserving public lands to Earth Day to the creation of the E.P.A. to the extremely important "No Littering" campaigns of the seventies, to regulations on pollution, to the banning of CFC's, to the publication of Rachel Carson's &lt;i&gt;Silent Spring&lt;/i&gt; etc, etc, etc) that contributed to environmental awareness, and the fact that in over a century millions have been involved in moving us towards better conditions for the planet, I find it a little insulting to all those people to give the credit to some furry animated animals.   David Whitley disrespects the complex and interconnected mechanisms that produced environmental awareness on a semi-global scale to sell a book with a premise he knows will work for many who do not know the efforts made by so many in the areas of resource depletion and land degredation (the dust bowl happened before the Bambi movie and farming methods were changed as a result of that, not because of Thumper), acid rain, pesticides, nuclear testing - none of which were ever covered in a Disney movie. 

Sorry if I sound a little pissed, I assure you it's not with you Rick.  It's with David Witless and his hokey, condescending ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m no fan of Disney but I have some nice memories of the movies when I was a kid.  Like you I saw them at revivals in the theaters &#8217;cause that&#8217;s how it was; no tapes, no dvd&#8217;s, hell no cable even.  </p>
<p>Anyway, I read about this somewhere, I can&#8217;t remember now, and I&#8217;m just not convinced that Disney helped us become environmentalists.  Given the overwhelming number of factors in the twentieth century (starting with Teddy Roosevelt preserving public lands to Earth Day to the creation of the E.P.A. to the extremely important &#8220;No Littering&#8221; campaigns of the seventies, to regulations on pollution, to the banning of CFC&#8217;s, to the publication of Rachel Carson&#8217;s <i>Silent Spring</i> etc, etc, etc) that contributed to environmental awareness, and the fact that in over a century millions have been involved in moving us towards better conditions for the planet, I find it a little insulting to all those people to give the credit to some furry animated animals.   David Whitley disrespects the complex and interconnected mechanisms that produced environmental awareness on a semi-global scale to sell a book with a premise he knows will work for many who do not know the efforts made by so many in the areas of resource depletion and land degredation (the dust bowl happened before the Bambi movie and farming methods were changed as a result of that, not because of Thumper), acid rain, pesticides, nuclear testing - none of which were ever covered in a Disney movie. </p>
<p>Sorry if I sound a little pissed, I assure you it&#8217;s not with you Rick.  It&#8217;s with David Witless and his hokey, condescending ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: Pam</title>
		<link>http://coosacreek.org/mambo/2008/04/25/animated-deer-provokes-debate-66-years-after-the-fact/#comment-635</link>
		<dc:creator>Pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember a ,as a younger mother, one certain child who was so into Bambi that he had to watch it everyday.  I thought I would go over the edge if I heard, "Drip, drip, drop little April shower. . ." one more time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember a ,as a younger mother, one certain child who was so into Bambi that he had to watch it everyday.  I thought I would go over the edge if I heard, &#8220;Drip, drip, drop little April shower. . .&#8221; one more time.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 17:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Joe ... I love good Disney productions, and I respect the place of the studio in film history, especially the history of animation.  The studio had heart and personality, even though it sometimes reinforced what I think of as the worst in the American impulse.

These days, as the studio has become an entertainment conglomerate, much of the heart is gone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Joe &#8230; I love good Disney productions, and I respect the place of the studio in film history, especially the history of animation.  The studio had heart and personality, even though it sometimes reinforced what I think of as the worst in the American impulse.</p>
<p>These days, as the studio has become an entertainment conglomerate, much of the heart is gone.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Campanella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Campanella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 16:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Rick. 

I always found it funny how people watched these types of films, like BABE, and then, after the film, went and ate pork chops and apple sauce without a gripe. 

I am partial to Disney films though. Especially the high caliber productions like FINDING NEMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Rick. </p>
<p>I always found it funny how people watched these types of films, like BABE, and then, after the film, went and ate pork chops and apple sauce without a gripe. </p>
<p>I am partial to Disney films though. Especially the high caliber productions like FINDING NEMO.</p>
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